The fourth article in my series about “self-hosting for newbies” explaining how I take care of backups for my YunoHost server.

  • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    18 hours ago

    In part one, I explained why I’m passionate about self-hosting and I discussed what you need to get started on this journey (a VPS and a domain name)

    You didn’t need either of those things. This reads like an ad for yunohost.

    • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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      10 hours ago

      I have used (and loved) Yunohost for a long time, and I host it at home. A few years back, I did set up a vps to proxy the traffic (over wireguard) so that I could actually get a letsencrypt cert. Some apps really don’t like self-signed certs.

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          8 hours ago

          I don’t remember exactly why, but I couldn’t get it to work any other way. First problem was incoming port 80 blocked by my ISP.

    • ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de
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      18 hours ago

      You are right, you don’t need yunohost, but it makes selfhosting pretty easy.

      send from my piefed instance hosted by yunohost ^^

    • Rimu@piefed.social
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      18 hours ago

      No, it’s legit. Elena has been tooting and peertubing about the fedi and her self hosting journey for over a year.

      • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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        18 hours ago

        It still reads like an ad for yunohost…

        I think one of the mistakes many newb self hosters make is thinking of systems in their entirety rather than as components.

        “How to install pihole on a raspberry pi” and “how to setup nextcloud on yunohost” are examples. All using very specific tools and very specific steps.

        I’m noticing this more and more with documentation for apps where they tell me to use their specific docker-compose file and have instructions to use let’s encrypt in a specific way rather than referring you to let’s encrypt as an option and pointing you at their docs.

        People aren’t learning how to use each of these tools and how to be flexible in their implementation.

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          11 hours ago

          It still reads like an ad for yunohost…

          An ad for what, exactly? Yunohost doesn’t have anything to sell you…

          Sometimes people are just passionate about things. Like digital sovereignty.

          People aren’t learning how to use each of these tools and how to be flexible in their implementation.

          Who gives a shit? I don’t know how to write apps for my phone either, I just click the install button and away I go. I don’t have time for a new career. If it weren’t for YNH I wouldn’t be hosting at all. And it’s not for lack of trying. Shit is complicated.

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            Sometimes people are just passionate about things. Like digital sovereignty.

            🙄

            Who gives a shit? I don’t know how to write apps for my phone either, I just click the install button and away I go. I don’t have time for a new career. If it weren’t for YNH I wouldn’t be hosting at all. And it’s not for lack of trying. Shit is complicated.

            I’m always a little surprised when people are passionate about being ignorant.

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                8 hours ago

                Who gives a shit? I don’t know how to write apps for my phone either, I just click the install button and away I go.

                Yeah - I’m the one wallowing in ignorance.

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                  8 hours ago

                  Yes, you’re the one ignorant of the fact that people want (and should have) digital sovereignty without needing a software engineering degree.

        • kossa@feddit.org
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          17 hours ago

          Depends highly on the people. I learned that way, to get started with recipes enabled me to get early successes which in turn motivated me.

          Down the road I needed different things from my setup, which could not be found in a simple recipe anymore, so I needed to learn the parts of the machine.

          • tedd_deireadh@piefed.social
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            16 hours ago

            Exactly. Both newbies and experienced admins aren’t always looking for a general summary on how to build something. Sometimes we need a direct, easy guide to build the tool we’ve already decided to implement. Let them read the documentation so I don’t have to.

            • non_burglar@lemmy.world
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              10 hours ago

              Let them read the documentation so I don’t have to.

              Exactly why the article promotes stupidity. Why in the world would you put those words down proudly?

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    15 hours ago

    reads about the correct pronunciation

    couple paragraphs below, still pronounces YunoHost the same wrong way

    dammit