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Our Holy Symbol

Again, I think that you’re focusing way too hard on there being some sort of deeper meaning to people drawing a country flag. Maybe you’re right and those people are nationalists who try to propagate some idea that their country is somehow better than yours by drawing a bigger flag. Why do you care so much?

the actual spirit being to mirror human social interactions in something inconsequential

I guess you could say it like that, although I would disagree that there are no consequences, most people just choose to ignore them because they don’t affect them personally in any way.

I don’t think we’ll find common ground here, but that’s totally fine. It’s been nice talking about it anyway; I just hope everything I said made sense^^

Those drawings are typically more elaborated than “me maeks flag”. As such, their artistic value is (for me) higher.

That might be true, but depending on the flag I’d say that the whole act of adapting it into pixel art bears artistic value enough to say that the people responsible don’t just blindly copy a template.

nationalistic symbol

I believe that most people (I even want to say almost everyone) drawing their country’s flag on the canvas don’t do it because they’re a nationalists or they want to force the flag (as a representation of a country and all the connotations it may have) onto other people.

That goes back to the point I made earlier about the two types of communities; defending the “purity” of the flag and not allowing anyone to draw on it is more akin to forcing the flag onto people I think, while allowing people to more or less “deface” the flag with their own drawings (while still respecting other people’s drawings i.e. the flag itself) is much more inviting and arguably in the spirit of the whole event.

this sort of “you did it and I undid it” is part of the game.

I guess I just want everyone to get along and work together, rather than against each other. Reddit’s r/place was a battlefield where only the biggest communities even had a chance of maintaining their works; I just want Lemmy canvas to be a bit more relaxed, that’s all.

So you want to protect artwork on a flag but not the flag itself? I guess my ultimate question is why do you care so much about defacing any (larger) flags on the canvas if they don’t even take up that much space with just the flag parts alone.

Like, you want to respect people’s drawings that they spend hours working on while defacing other people’s drawings that they spend hours on just because you don’t like the “country-based identity that benefits the government” these latter drawings supposedly represent.

I really don’t mean to offend you, I just want to understand where you’re coming from with this.

Australian flag taking too much space

It was scheduled to be even bigger last year… my point is that there’s basically two types of flag-making communities; those who really do just take up space that could be otherwise used by many for themselves and those who let others’ drawings co-exist on their flags.

I think the latter isn’t all that bad, as long as there are no weird rules in place of what can and cannot be drawn on the flag; although I don’t know what rules the Aussies had for this, aside from keeping the integral parts of the flag mostly intact, as I wasn’t involved in the planning process.

The chat function was quite cumbersome in my experience (as someone without a matrix account); it was pretty slow to load as well.

Maybe such thing could be integrated into Lemmy itself somewhere in the future?

Huge thanks to grant for organising this huge event! This year’s canvas was 100% better than 2023’s.

It was amazing to see all the pretty things people came up with.

Even if you don’t like it because it goes directly against your goal.

As I’ve said, I can understand your point and that’s part of the reason I do not support the German community for example; they tend to have the most flags every year and don’t really allow anything on them from what I can see.

I was more or less helping to maintain the Australian flag, as well as some of the drawings on it. Granted, I also helped to delete a few drawings off it and admittedly, I was just following along in those cases.

I’m not even really disagreeing with you. To be honest, I’m quite sick of seeing large plain flags on the canvas, too. But I fail to see a point in being so angry about it to the point of wanting to “fight back” against the “nationalists”.

At the end of the day, it’s not that important. Just leave them and look for other spots to draw your stuff, maybe ask around in participating communities; they’ll even help you if you ask nicely.

If you don’t want to see flags, don’t participate. Canvas is about people working together to create something and in my opinion, country flags have their place on there just as much as the endless brand logos, ponies and amongus crewmates.

The time lapse makes it look like there are still holes in the aussie flag at the end, I know for a fact that’s not the case (I made the little aboriginal flag under the union jack)

Was my first time participating in something like this and after hearing what a clusterfuck r/place was.

This was surprisingly fun, more time would be great, though.