kratoz29

I guess so, my previous ISP also gave me IPv6 address (I could navigate using it) but I could never access my NAS services with it from an IPv6 ready network, I thought it would be the same with the newer ISP, but nope.

Maybe some firewall is active by the ISP? I could not do much thinker back then as I used the stock modem (router) and it was heavily locked.

I usually have IPv6 access in my home, on the outside it varies from the ISPs :/

Yeah, don’t get me wrong, I can see value of getting a VPS, especially if you are gonna be using it for some other projects, I have had a DO instance in the past and I thinkered with WG back then BTW, but if it is only for remote accessing your home LAN, I don’t feel like paying for it tbh, especially when some users get it for free (public IPv4) and it feels even dumber for me since I have a fully working IPv6 setup!

BTW my ISP is funny, no firewall at all with it, I almost fainted when I noticed everyone could access my self hosted services with the IPv6 address and I did nothing regarding ports or whatsoever… They were fully accessible once I fired up the projects! I think I read an article about this subject… But I can’t recall when or where… I had to manually set up a firewall, which tbh, you always should do and it is especially easy to do in a Synology NAS.

Anyway, back to the mesh VPN part, if they enshitify so be it, but in the meantime we still can benefit from it.

WG is worthless in a CGNAT environment… And as we are in 2025 and time doesn’t stop it will be irrelevant for everyone someday, unless they fully support IPv6 (which I don’t know if they do, if you can use WG in a CGNATED network with IPv6 I’d like to know though, I am very rusty setting it up, but it might worth checking it out).

I mainly use Tailscale (and Zerotier) to access my CGNATED LAN, headscale will require me to pay a subscription for a VPS wouldn’t it?

I really envy the guys who say only use them because they’re lazy to open ports or want a more secure approach, I use them because I NEED them lol.

If (when?) Tailscale enshitify I’ll stick with ZT a bit until it goes the same way lol, I started using it 1st, I don’t know if ZT came before Tailscale though.

Kodi ain’t a self host tool, nor a server though but it is a great player, and I happily use the big 3, Kodi, Stremio and Plex (I’d add Cloud Stream as a runner up).

Oh… This can’t be good news can it?

I mean I am used to seeing bad news everyday, and this is what a bad one looks like.

Ah, Steins;Gate, one of the most praised animes that I hear often that I specifically don’t play because I forced myself to check it out once I finish the Vita game (which is buried in my backlog 🫠).

Pocket Cast, because it is the only option to have my queue synced along all my Android, iOS and even Alexa devices (I don’t pay the subscription so I am missing out on the desktop and website ones), if there is an alternative for it, please enlighten me.

You know all the certs and security and port stuff you need to do? Plex does that. You just download the app, point it at your folders with media, and you’re all set both at your home and beyond it.

I am just gonna read your comment until here, Plex does shit if you are CGNATED, and as it is 2025 I suppose most users are, I still needed to expose through IPv6 with a reverse proxy, using a VPS or a VPN to access my Plex Server, so yeah, Plex hasn’t helped me at all since many years ago with the noob friendly approach they have.

EDIT: Oh and their relay feature is garbage, even for Plex Pass users, and I happen to be a lifetime one.

I expose some stuff through IPv6 only with my Synology NAS (I am CGNATED) and I have always wondered if I still need to use fail2ban in that environment…

My Synology has an auto block feature that from my understanding is essentially fail2ban, what I don’t know is if such a feature works for all my exposed services but Synology’s.

No time to self host their own social media I guess.

Yeah, at this point they just think we are stupid as, as if they were taking a huge toll with the bandwidth by capping the remote playback option… They are not hosting the files ffs.

Huh, I was somewhat excited about the elimination of the playback limit for mobile apps (we are in 2025 ffs!) and then re-read that this will be only applicable for the subpar preview version once it is released… Which doesn’t fucking has the watch together feature lmao.

The only good news in a nutshell is that I am still a Plex Pass Lifetime User, so in a nutshell I don’t get good news lol.

I can understand new features being behind a fee, but this is putting old, old capabilities behind a paywall. Hmmm…

I am a Trakt user, was an Evernote user and I am (thankfully) a Plex Pass user…

What service are we missing that has done the same? We should make a list if there is not one already.

it is not tailscale. but also it seems I was wrong and its not wireguard either

Yeah, I totally meant Wireguard there, my bad.

I know what opening ports is, I only have v4. But I thought you have difficulties with bittorrent over v6. or is it that you still need to open ports for v6, in the firewall or something?

I don’t have difficulties to download, I have difficulties to seed because I am CGNATED and it seems Qbittorrent or any Torrent client really can’t use IPv6 to be more connectable thus seed more.

I want to seed more without having to pay for it or do convoluted workarounds.

tailscale and zerotier are wireguard, but with a public server that helps with NAT. Syncthing uses a public server for that too.

wireguard was specifically made to be as simple and minimalistic as possible.

Zerotier wasn’t always Tailscale was it?

is there such a problem? honest question. But I think that might be a different issue

You need to be connectable to download from all the peers, likewise non connectable users can’t download from you, and how do you become connectable? By opening your ports, something that might seem archaic from somebody who has totally embraced IPv6.

maybe they just don’t see working on it profitable enough

Yeah maybe.

Just to clarify, I have several workarounds for the 3 issues that have involved spending more money or not to get rid of CGNAT.

• For the 1st one… Well I already mentioned it, I am a ZT and Tailscale user, I did try Wireguard from a VPS once though, but I didn’t like that I was entirely dependant of my upload speed, maybe I had my Iptables wrongly configured but I usually got faster speeds just using ZT or Tailscale (I didn’t need to relay in the US VPS server).

• For Torrenting… I actually haven’t found a solution to use IPv6… I did use a container client to use my VPS at that time though, it being Digital Ocean and thus getting a DMCA letter for downloading TWD me being a LATAM user was… A kinda funny experience, with that said I stopped that project immediately, it was fun to give back to the community with my 24/7 NAS always seeding though.

• For the last point… Well, I do use ZT and Tailscale to access the server myself, but when I want to expose it, I usually do it with a reverse proxy pointing out to my IPv6 address, and more recently using a Tailscale funnel, I haven’t tried it thoroughly, but at least it seems to connect without using Plex’s relays.

As you can see, one needs to be well prepared with workarounds to deal with CGNAT.

The fact that Syncthing seems to solve CGNAT on its own has me wondering why there are not more solutions for the server/home side.

Why does Wireguard or any other VPN not work like Tailscale or Zerotier?

Why don’t torrent clients can’t work with IPv6 to seed more?

Why doesn’t Plex adopt a similar mechanic like Syncthing to expose the media over the Internet instead of being a prisoner of CGNAT?

I know I am just throwing different options with my personal frustrations lol, but I hope you get what I am trying to mean, Plex, torrent and home VPN users shouldn’t become masters at networking, especially when the documentation for the tools IS NOT ENOUGH.

I can see my 5 year old android mobile struggling being a suitable self hosting machine… (Because of the battery).

But not gonna lie, having it working as a more advanced travel router connect to Tailscale sounds like a neat idea (which I think it is already possible? The other day I saw the client app that supports subnet routers? I just haven’t tried it, and it has a disclaimer that it drains the battery… So I didn’t end up doing that at that moment when I was away).

I tried Jellyfin years ago, it is in my test for later todo since then, it was pretty vanilla compared to my Plex Media Server (for instance I couldn’t get to work the transcoder to use quick sync to lower the CPU load if needed, meanwhile Plex worked fine with the Docker container even).

With that said, I stopped using Plex daily in order to give some use to my Real Debrid account (so Stremio and Kodi are the next logical alternatives for me) and because I only have a two bay NAS with 10 TB in total, and I like to hoard so I struggle every time I need to delete something, since I knew about Riven/Zurg/Rclone/DMM combo I have returned using Plex without worrying each day about my drives, keeping it updated and enjoying the thinkering process of this new experience, also sharing the love with a couple of friends, I see no need to try Jellyfin, even after that many years.