Keep P2P as the default for small rooms — that’s most servers most of the time and the no-extra-infra story is genuinely valuable for self-hosters.
[I] went mediasoup, built into Haven, after all. The two things that pushed my plan above toward LiveKit are gone now. It runs on one port instead of a whole range, and it downloads a ready-made build instead of compiling anything.
While the code is a slop hodgepodge, Haven is currently the only Discord clone I have found that makes it easy to selfhost; no extra open port except 443 80, single docker container, no extra database.
Website: https://haven-app.com/




Once i find a different discord clone thats this easy to selfhost I’ll switch to it immediately. Before commenting I’d urge you to try selfhosting the other clones its a mindfield of ports which scares me off tbh
Wtf is a mindfield
For lifekit to work it needs direct https access, if you’re running caddy server that means connecting the tls certs to livekit somehow then opening up a hole range of ports.
I believe they are pointing out that its “minefield” not “mindfield”.