Hi all,

I’m looking at exposing some self-hosted web-based services externally so that some relatives can access them and would appreciate some advice.

Vikunja is the starting point (mostly to facilitate my spouse and I using it when away from home) but in future I want to set up Immich or similar to replace Google Photos, and that in particular will need to be shared with friends and family (especially so that immediate family can have camera uploads on automatically).

I understand that ideally I’d use SSH, a VPN, or tailscale or similar (although I don’t have experience with tailscale), but that’s not going to be feasible. Most of the family will not be able to set up those connections themselves (which means I would need to) and several are far enough away that it is impractical for me to provide on-site support or do it myself. Even if I could get a VPN or similar deployed on all their devices, I suspect that they’re going to struggle with needing to connect to it just to upload or view photos, then disconnect afterwards to resume using the Internet – I really need this to “just work” for them.

So this brings me back to safely exposing these services to the outside world. My network architecture complicates this a little, so for context:

  • Modem/router has basic firewall and points to a Raspberry Pi for DHCP. I already have No-IP set up with a domain name so that I can SSH into my LAN when away from home.
  • RPi runs Pi-hole + dnscrypt, acting as DHCP and DNS server for the network.
  • I want to use nginx as a reverse proxy running on this RPi, as I have experience with it and it can add SSL using certbot. The router would be configured to use port forwarding to direct external traffic for ports 80 and 443 to the RPi.
  • Vikunja is hosted on a separate Raspberry Pi (with other things like Shiori)
  • I have not yet determined where Immich or similar is going to go. I have existing home server that I use for backups and important family stuff, but I really don’t want this to be vulnerable to the outside world. If I were to install Immich here, I’d need it to be well-isolated from the rest of the system. The other option is to get a NUC or similar, which is what I am leaning towards as the less stressful option.

So my main questions are:

  1. Beyond fail2ban and my router’s firewall, what else can I do to protect my network once I open ports 80 and 443?

  2. How do I handle fail2ban configuration when the services are on different devices to the nginx proxy? I understand the best place to put fail2ban would be on the Pi running nginx (since it’s the access point to the outside world), but that it also needs to read the logs from Vikunja, etc. to be effective.

  3. Where would you put Immich in my network architecture?

Any other tips/recommendations for making this easy to use for my less tech-inclined friends and family would be much appreciated as well. Thanks.

  • SomeLemmyUser@discuss.tchncs.de
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    9 hours ago

    I was going to build my system like that, but recently learned that host client isolation is not as strong as people make you believe.

    just a few weeks ago we learned that copy fail (security vulnerability) was on major distros for years until it was fixed, it would allow containers and VMS to infect the host system. Xz utils could also lead to a broken host client separation, as proxmox uses ssh for clustering and the like.

    So for really important stuff I am going to have a dedicated physical server or put it in cold storage altogether.

    That said, I am by no means an expert so feel free to correct me if I got something wrong.

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      8 hours ago

      copy fail allows VMs to infect the host system? I thought it was a kernel vulnerability, not a hypervisor vulnerability. Containers and LXCs share the kernel with the host, full VMs do not. So a kernel exploit allows container escape but not VM escape.

      Kernel exploits happen a few times a year. Hypervisor exploits and VM escapes are VERY rare.

      Using SSH for clustering is optional. You can just use normal VMs. You don’t have to install SSH into the VM, you can view it through proxmox. The only difference between a VM and a physical machine is the hypervisor, so the only security difference is the security of the hypervisor. And as I mentioned, hypervisor exploits are very rare.

      Edit: for a sense of perspective, think about this. Almost every major tech company in the world relies on hypervisors for security. Qubes OS, known in the privacy/security world as one of if not the most secure OSes, relies on the hypervisor for security. An easily exploitable hypervisor escape would be a vulnerability on the scale of the XZ utils backdoor (which was unsuccessful). I have not seen a vulnerability of that scale since heartbleed.

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        2 hours ago

        Good post. And i would like to add for anyone to be able to use hypervisor escape, you also need a vulnerability in the software presented to the internet. And even then, the chance that anyone would waste a zero day on a homelab is pretty slim…

      • pmk@piefed.ca
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        2 hours ago

        Almost 20 years ago, Theo de Raadt (founder of OpenBSD) said: “you think that a worldwide collection of software engineers who can’t write operating systems or applications without security holes, can then turn around and suddenly write virtualization layers without security holes.” I would like to think that we’ve figured out the security holes since then, but… you know…