• tuhriel@infosec.pub
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      7 hours ago

      That doesn’t work. The amount of research people need to do to get enough information which product can currently just be shut down by the manufacturer is crazy…also it doesn’t matter: the corps can just change the contract afterwards and you loose access to the features anyway…it needs regulations to stop this.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        🙄 covered here

        Only person that thinks reading the packaging is a mountain of effort, is the kind of lazy person who buys stupid home automation devices to avoid walking five feet to turn off a lightbulb.

    • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
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      11 hours ago

      Are you buying these u/a_random_idiot? /Jk

      Honestly though how are consumers supposed to know which ones will be a bust and which ones won’t?

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        Very simple.

        Does the product say requires an internet connection? Does it say on the packaging that it requires an app to use? Do you get home and find out it needs those things despite the packaging not saying it?

        Then don’t buy it/Return it.

        Its not that hard to avoid falling into this pit. But I guess if you are too lazy to walk the five feet to turn your living room lights off, maybe you’re too lazy to actually read anything… and if you’re that lazy, then I dont give a fuck about how you get screwed.

    • Doomsider@lemmy.world
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      22 hours ago

      No, this requires regulations to prevent massive amounts of Ewaste. Consumers can’t change this behavior.

      Like right to repair or privacy. We need real regulations. Corporations are too big and powerful and even something like choice has been turned into choosing which shitty corp you want to buy from.

      • ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 hours ago

        You know how the US government has 3 branches that are supposed to check and balance each other? We should teach that Corporations, Government, and Individuals/Unions operate similarly.

        Corporate terms of service check individuals against abusing others. So do government laws.

        Government is supposed to check corporations from abusing their customers. And customer boycotts moderate corporate behavior.

        And corporations… Apparently moderate the flow of information to individuals so the companies always manufacture consent. And lobby for their own advantage.

        If nothing else, by describing how it is, we can have a real conversation about how fucked/okay all of this is, and examine what parts of this framework are actually functioning.

        And in that, we can explore where Unions fit - as 3rd party bosses steeped in corruption, or as genuine representatives of their people. And explore how to rebound in just the one context, because we are good citizens. 😇😅😉

    • BanMe@lemmy.world
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      21 hours ago

      Blaming consumers for the behavior of corporations is a fallacy of capitalism… consumers act in their best interests, not necessary in everyone’s best interests, so we all suffer if everyone does that.

          • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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            3 hours ago

            Only people that dont want to blame the consumers for buying the shit… are the idiots that buy the shit, which is why they get so incensed when you argue that landfill shovel shit wont stop being sold until they stop buying it.

            Stop buying shit, and companies will stop dumping billions into its R&D and advertising. They’re not doing that shit to waste money, They’re doing that to sell products… and if you stop buying it, they’ll stop making it.

            • Auli@lemmy.ca
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              3 hours ago

              Well all I got to say is you live up to your user name very well.