• RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
    2·
    1 day ago

    I assumed it was just the company pulling the plug on that particular AI personality, maybe I’m thinking of something else

        • TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          1·
          2 hours ago

          It may be possible eventually, but we ain’t there yet. A big problem is having consistency across sessions, especially if the vtuber interacts with the audience in a natural way. Streamers need to interface with the culture of their followers in a reactive way to meet the current standards, so it’ll take time. It’s not like a 1 on 1 convo with a single user. They also tend to play games and do interactive tasks which add even more challenges.

          Like I said, this all seems possible, but not as straightforward as you imagine.

  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
    211·
    2 days ago

    Most of the time, they move on to other projects. Like when you graduate highschool and go to college. The term comes from idol culture and often times when an Idol “graduates”, they move onto a solo music career, form a group with other graduated talents, pursue an acting career or simply become private citizens again.

    IDOl CulturE iS SO toXIC!!!

    Yeah, so is the culture around child actors/musicians in the west.

  • Zwiebel@feddit.orgEnglish
    531·
    3 days ago

    Even weirder how hololive forbids talking about their new carreers as if their dead not graduated

    • chellewalker@lemmy.caEnglish
      21·
      3 days ago

      It’s not just a Hololive thing; Vshojo was an outlier in that it’s talents could maintain their identities when they left the company, but every other Vtubet agency does the same thing.

          • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            Weird that VSPO is counted separately when it’s a subsidiarity of BraveGroup, which manages or “manages” a lot of different vtuber orgs. They would be higher if all the orgs were counted together.

            Also, they’re starting to have their own fuckary now.

    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      meh. Anyone from that big of a company that wants to be found again, will be found again. Cover also doesn’t seen punish their talents for honest mistakes like when Kiara had her little slipup on her personal account. This biggest issue happened when Mel shared some internal company matters with a friend she trusted, which because Cover is publicly traded, could count as Insider Trading and the company couldn’t look the other way.

    • Harvey656@lemmy.world
      10·
      3 days ago

      That’s just the way Japanese do these things, look at the rules their YouTuber and what not have to stick to, talking about this stuff could be real, serious legal ramifications. Craziness.

    • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.worldEnglish
      30·
      3 days ago

      When they stop streaming as that character.

      The term “graduating” comes from Japanese pop idol culture, where a pop idol retiring is called “graduating.”

        • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.worldEnglish
          152·
          3 days ago

          Its a culture difference. Its not my place to police another culture, I am just saying what the origin of the term is.

            • RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              1 day ago

              I am not about to say that someone’s else’s culture is wrong. Even if I personally feel that way, that is only my opinion, and only applies to me and how I might choose to interact with another culture.

              I am not an authority on what is right or wrong in a culture, and quite frankly, neither are you.

              • SapientLasagna@lemmy.ca
                21·
                22 hours ago

                And as we all know, you have to be a legally recognized authority on a subject to express an opinion about it online.

                Fortunately, in my jurisdiction I’m licensed as a RightHandOfKaros-is-wierdologist.

    • vateso5074@lemmy.world
      24·
      3 days ago

      I don’t know the full ins and outs myself, but most of these VTubers are managed by agencies who own the rights to the characters they portray. The people behind the character get paid for their work, and they can choose to take better jobs elsewhere, but they don’t get to bring the characters with them. Basically like how Tom Kenny (voice actor for SpongeBob) can’t just decide to be SpongeBob somewhere else, he doesn’t own the character.

      When a VTuber decides to retire or if they take a better job with a different agency, the character “graduates,” which I think is just used because it’s a softer word than “retire.” The fans just get to imagine the character is off doing bigger and better things, not that they’re euthanized or locked in a storage unit somewhere gathering dust. In theory I guess the agency could continue using the character for merch and promo material, or even recast, though I have no idea how well that would go in an industry with fans as obsessive as theirs.

  • earthworm@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    281·
    1 day ago

    Dooby, Saba, Mint, Doki, Nimi, and Henya.

    All my oshis must be Jason Bourne, because they survived the kill squads and returned from the dead.

    Edit: How could I forget Henya?

  • Phoenix3875@lemmy.world
    11·
    3 days ago

    Not deep in the vtuber culture, but I thought the term comes from things like Love Live. The idols are supposed to be high school students.

  • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
    141·
    3 days ago

    It’s actually like molting, they might disappear for a couple weeks then show up in a different skin

    But it’s also a very dangerous process and disturbing them during this period can cause them to hurt themselves

  • PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk
    121·
    3 days ago

    If it helps, here’s a story that’s the exception that proves the rule…

    We adopted a dog. A beautiful Romanian Shepherd. Lovely dog, friendly as fuck, mega playful… but wasn’t a fan of kids. That was unfortunate, because our kids loved the dog but after a while the dog got a bit bitey. No warning, no growl, just fuck you and chomp. Thankfully, the only thing that stopped him from doing some serious damage was that he was a good boi and never proper sunk his teeth in.

    Long story boring, we tried to rehome him, tried to calm him, tried to train him out of it, but the dog wouldn’t settle. Took him to the vets to give him a once over before the rescue charity took him back… and he bit the vet. That fucked a lot of things - the rescue was mega wary, the vet had recommended euthanasia, and keeping him wasn’t an option.

    Long story short, we found a farm that specialised in dogs that had some “behavioural quirks”, and we took him halfway across the country to live there. It was a lovely place - loads of land, quiet, and dozens of corners where he could do his favourite thing - sit in a corner and chew on his toy.

    I miss that dog, but I’m glad he’s happy.